The “good points” I was referring to were Ogre’s general opinions about the military goals of the US being typically less than noble, and the unnecessary size of the US military industrial complex.
Once again, you are being extremely selective about what you hear, reading far to much into single words, and extrapolating to the extreme.
I’m not really interested in getting into another one of these debates where you change the meanings of your own words and mine as we go along.
Perhaps I am an idiot for interpreting phrases like “drive a blade into the Iranian regime” as meaning something other than an act of confrontation, but so be it.
So let’s just skip the semantic debate over the word “engaged,” or whatever word it is that caused your irritation.
Carry on with your war against “leftist” trolls…[/quote]
Pri: Where was the US engaged? Those were your words, not mine, and I didn’t twist anything at all.
I also never accused Mr. Ogre of being a Leftist troll, either. I took issue with what is demonstrably rank revisionism and what stands in direct contradiction to the facts and evidence, along with a huge body of scholarship as to the causes of the Pacific War.
I don’t disagree with the bulk of what he said regarding “military welfare” and the creation of our National Security State. You’ve heard me bang on incessantly about civil liberties and the frightening erosion of same. Given where I spent my time in the 1980s whilst in the Army, I also will wholeheartedly agree with our less than pure motives, especially when it comes to resource extraction. Since I didn’t and don’t disagree with it, I didn’t challenge it, nor did I bring it up. That isn’t selective, by the way, I simply chose not to argue points I don’t disagree with. However, conflating Japanese militarism with the victims of Stalin and Pol Pot was simply a bridge too far and thus my response.
Again, I’d like an answer to my question. Where and when was the US actively participating in hostilities prior to the December 7, 1941 attack at Pearl Harbor? Its a fair question.
