KB is going to get the snot beat out of it today as well, thier quarterly losses were just announced and they were huge. I never thought CFC would go under, I actually thought that some of the lenders and builders would benefit from the shakeout, after some went out of business the survivors would gain market share. While I always knew it would get bad, I’m suprised how bad and how fast. I would bottom fish some of these stocks since some are 90% off but I know too much about the market now to touch them.