[quote=joec][quote=CA renter]I want to make it clear that I am not trying to attack private sector workers as much as I am defending public sector workers from these relentless and incredibly unfair attacks.
Just go through all of the threads on this site to see who’s doing the attacking. Almost all of the threads where I have to post about this topic started out as an attack against public sector workers and/or unions.
If people don’t want to hear the truth, then stop posting lies and BS corporatist propaganda. If people want to push for the abolition of teacher tenure or public unions, then show **evidence** that any of these things will actually benefit students, taxpayers, workers, citizens, etc. as a whole. Simply repeating the right-wing propaganda is NOT going to cut it.[/quote]
As a defender of ACA / Obamacare, if you read my posts above AGAIN, I’m actually not attacking having public employee jobs or stating we should outsource everything. You just wasted 2 long posts above trying to say that I am saying to outsource everything when that’s very far from the truth.
Some jobs simply can’t be private since it makes no financial sense to provide some services when the profits/bottom line is what’s important for most private corporations. I very well understand that such as things for fire departments, defense, police, etc…should not be private for this very reason.
Again, I state again and take issue with YOUR STANCE AND HOW YOU COME AS SAYING THAT PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ARE A HIGHER STANDARD THAN PRIVATE AND THIS WHOLE NOTION THAT PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ARE BETTER…
Even though that might NOT be your intent, it certainly comes off that way with what you posts and if you re-read your first comment, it’s what you write as well.
It just sounds as if you’re a know it all type person.
The whole wall of text you posted on privatizing certain industries and those not doing well isn’t even something I’m advocating or want to advocate so you might as well just delete those as a rebuttal since I’m not talking about those things.[/quote]
Joe, the privatization posts were in response to this nugget:
[quote=joec]
At the end of the day, ANYTHING the public government runs is more expensive, less efficient, more prone to fraud, rip/off people, than near anything the private industry does so please stop with the BS as well that the standards or public sector jobs is higher, just DIFFERENT.[/quote]
It’s simply not true. Even the right-wing groups can’t come up with anything to show that privatization saves money.
Maybe I come across as a know-it-all because of my frustration with the never-ending and totally unsubstantiated claims that unions/public sector workers are bad, or that they cost taxpayers more money than if public services were outsourced/privatized. At least I research the topics and have some real-life familiarity with them before I debate. Too many people do no research at all, but insist on spewing their right-wing propaganda all over the internet. Even when the facts are presented to them, they continue with the same old lies and misinformation on another thread at some later time. It gets old.
