I know it was wordy and maybe I didn’t explain it properly, but the age alone is not a strike, nor is the size, nor is the lack of the hoa. It’s the combination of the three that creates the the problem. It’s like the fire triangle (heat, fuel, oxygen), on their own they are harmless, remove any of the three and you won’t have a fire, combine them and it’s dangerous.
I have no way of disputing your opinion of the new world order or of Southern Californians, because my frame of reference is too finite, I was born here, as were my parents. I have lived in three counties but they were all in so cal, I am what I am and it is what it is, hopefully the Op who had a question will take my reply for what it is, just my opinion, even if it is superficial and shallow. In reality, real estate is about the buyer and the market, and many of the buyers are like me, right or wrong, democratic or republican, fruits or nuts, most buyers of southern california real estate are southern californians and it is important to understand them even if you aren’t one of them.
paramount, I agree with you more often than not, and bills do wear people down (i would love to trade, I’ve always maintained that you have an eviable financial situation and are way too hard on yourself because youy live well within your means, btw), but the question posed was about the comparison of two master planned developments and I did my best to compare and contrast them. I refuse to take responsibility for expressing my opinions and preferences, I give them freely and everyone is entitled to a full refund if they dont like them, I should be taken with a grain of salt if not a full shaker.
If anyone lives in vail and takes offense, my apologies, it’s still a damn nice place, but when asked to compare it, I cant help myself.