I have a 2004 Kia Sedona minivan I bought new for $14,000 as a special newspaper ad one only year end special. It really doesn’t suck that much. I think it’s kind of cool in an ironic suburban way. A bear broke into it in yosemite and tweaked the center console not covered by the generous wRranty. I would buy another kia but not on advertising only on price.
