[quote=harvey][quote=sdrealtor]Huh? I asked what they were in simple terms and you couldnt confidentlly come close to doing that. I gave you the opportunity to defend your position and you punted. Fair enough. I will just go to google and look it up for myself. No doubt I’ll find a “pension hater” blog with an explanation you will claim is slanted. SO be it.[/quote]
I’m not sure why this is happening on this particular issue, but some otherwise reasonable folks don’t seem to want to even acknowledge that there is a problem, let alone discuss the merits of various solutions.
There really is no debate that there are major issues with public-sector pensions. It’s not a partisan issue either – ask Jerry Brown or the Democratic mayors of of many cities.
Anyone who wants to claim that the concerns are all a matter of “perception” or “envy” is simply not credible. It’s a real problem on the scale of hundreds of billions of dollars.
Let’s not get distracted trying to prove there is an elephant standing in the room, just because there are a few stubborn folks who choose to be blind.
Instead, let’s talk about how we are going to clean up the shit pile the elephant created, and how we can move the animal outside so it doesn’t happen again.
There are very straightforward and fair solutions to this problem.[/quote]
Who is it that’s refused to acknowledge a problem? Just because there are differing views of both the scope of the problem, and possible solutions, doesn’t mean that anyone is blind to the problem.
