An ordinary family man charging his electric car in a public space provided specifically for that purpose.
Beaten and pepper sprayed.
A civilized society must enforce it’s laws.
Violent criminals must be prosecuted and sentenced to prison.
The victim has a beautiful family. I hope they can find peace on this Mothers Day.[/quote]
on the other hand, here, taking the caR position, he did refuse to identify himself to the police when asked. The police couldnt know whether or not they were dealing with a potentially violent criminal …he couldve been out on bail for murder, for all the cops knew. He was asserting what he believed to be his right to not produce his identification because in his mind (probbaly correctly) he hadnt committed a crime. But the police did not know that. He was int he park just minutes before “closing time”, so he was on the verge of committing a crime; being out too late int he park. it’s almost an attempt to vioalte that city ordinance of being out too late int he park…. had he not exited the park within just four minutes, he would have been in violation of the law. Therefore, since he was in the park almost too late, and was of a certain sex and age and perhaps race, and was noncompliant with office commands to provide identification, the officers could use their collective experience, common sense, streets smarts, spidey sense and intuition, to say, this person might very well be a dangerous criminal, and they could use reaosnable force to get him into submission, including throwing him to the ground and pepper spraying him, because he was obstructing their investigation.
which makes one wonder; if the police ask you for your identification, and you’ve done nothing wrong, do you have to give them your id?
bottom line: maybe technically legally yes you can refuse to give id, but its a dopey maneuver and for practical reality, its dumb to refuse,and may very well result in getting beaten and pepper sprayed. Assuming you are trying to avoid police escalation resulting in potentially severe injury for no reason, which is really the smartest way to negotiate through the situation, , just produce your license, assuming youve done nothing wrong.
