[quote=FlyerInHi]The problem with public transport first is that it’s a huge waste of money. You end up with buses and rail without any riders.
Successful public transport is added to already dense, congested neighborhoods. There a period of congestion and inconvenience, but that’s the price of progress.[/quote]Agree, you can’t build transport first, because as you said, it’ll be a big waste of $. With that said, the city planners can sit down with the developers to truly draw out the areas they want the developers to build high density, then put in plans for public transit stops around those areas. But then you’d need to add in caveats that these stations won’t be built until developers build the high density units. That would be the ideal way, but that would require a lot of fore thoughts and a lot of cooperation between all parties, which I don’t think would be a feasible thing, especially when we’re talking about about 30-50 years city planning. The other two options I think would be to either build density first, then transit will come or transit comes first, then density will come. Both have their problem. If you build density first, you’ll have problem like One Paseo, where people will say, see, no plans for transit, so too dense. If you build transit first, you’ll have issues like what’s going on on Bay Ho, where current owners are saying, no way to high density, even if there’s transit, because it’ll block their view and add too much traffic and ruin their feel of the neighborhood. So, there’s really no easy answer IMHO.