[quote=FlyerInHi]Although i am a man, I feel like i understand Hillary.
Like Hillary, I was idealistic once but much more pragmatic now.
I don’t think caring for the less fortunate is exclusive of building your own fortune so I don’t fault the Clintons for becoming rich. The reality is that you need money to open doors and be taken seriously. Plus, with money, you can delegate more and accomplish a lot more. It makes no sense for people to say “if you care for the poor, you should give up your own money”. How does it help anyone to live in poverty and have no power?
Hillary may seem calculating, but that’s what business and the business of politics, and being a lawyer are all about. People who are business minded should support that.
I believe that Hillary has been a liberal since her college days and that never goes away. Sometimes the country is too conservative and not ready to move on so she had to equivocate. For example, she was against gay marriage before she supported it. But that is not flip flopping. It’s evolution. What matters is that she supports it now.
In politics, you have to be flexible and adjust to the context. I mean, how useful it is to say “we will not deal with Cuba as long as Castro is in power”? Well Fidel left power years ago and his brother took power. Doubling down on an old policy is stupid. I’m glad that Hillary and Obama restored relations with Cuba.[/quote]
Clinton is a flip-flopper because even in this fight with Bernie, she has gone even FARTHER left just because she has to do just that to get the nomination. She was supportive of a free trade deal earlier with Obama, but had to flip flop so she wouldn’t lose the nomination recently.
She also had to go FARTHER on immigration than she wanted to or Obama ever did due to the election.
She panders and says whatever is needed to enrich herself and her situation and to WIN the election. That is, by definition, what flip flopping is. She says whatever is needed to win.
All you’ve stated above from what I take is that it’s ok to make money, and after you have money, no matter how you made it even if it’s selling out so you profit from it (say, get kickbacks, speaking fees, whatever so you approve a deal or contract or whatever that’s bad for the country, but good for you, it’s all ok)…
My feeling is that Hillary is completely bought by special interest. Her main goal in life is to make money and enrich herself and her family, that’s all. Everything done has that end goal in mind. Helping blacks is to help herself and her husband get elected. I don’t believe deep down, she honestly gives a crap.
Yes, I am a Clinton hater. But calling her progressive I feel is inaccurate and ultimately, I feel she is there just to enrich herself. I think after the whole Monica Lewinsky affair, she stayed with Bill since politically, that would be best for her to get ahead.
We will never know what she really feels deep down, but stating all you state above is really giving her credit that she doesn’t deserve IMO.
Some of my problems with politics and politicians and all these types is that a lot of times, they get inside information for various business deals or partnerships, but unlike insider trading, it is stated that they can trade and invest based on this information, all legally…
Oh well, maybe I am sad to just see her possibly get the nomination soon and the smell test of rich people giving you money and not wanting anything in return is naïve I feel.