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Yes, I do. Well, maybe not massive, but big. Am I certain? Far from it.
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Stats say that when then economy is humming along, incumbent party stays in control.
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Normally, maybe. This isn’t normal. I think you underestimate the energy on the left right now.
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That’s why all the talk from the blue side and blue leaning media avoids talking about the economy. Me thinks for most people , it’s good.
I think outside of the blue states like CA, most of the rest of the country only really care about 1 thing. Jobs.
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I think you underestimate the voters. Progressives actually do care about other people. And about our society. And about the rule of law in this country.
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I mean what counter pitch can blue candidates make? We need to increase taxes to pay for more benefits? How would this win if the economy is doing alright and unemployment is at a low and most people are working and we finally have some wage growth now, as reported by the same system that’s been used even before this administration?
I don’t think Americans on the fence will change their vote simply because someone at the oval office is a dispicable person. And unfortunately, those most affected by this administration can’t vote (at least not legally).
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First off, it’s more than just trump being a despicable person. It’s the damage he’s causing to our society. It’s the feeling that we’re turning into a deplorable country with deplorable people led by a man not fit to pump gas. I think that’s more important to people than you think it is to them.
It’s also about the rule of law in this country. Trump keeps trying to weaken the Department of Justice. Trying to weaken it and fill it with sycophants who will do his bidding instead of administering the rule of law.
And it’s not just fence-sitters who will be the change in this election. It will be the millions of people who sat on their ass last election but are now energized to vote to change the direction we’re going in.
I’d like to think people are smart enough to know that trump deserves almost no credit for the current state of the economy. And smart enough to realize that much of the money their grandchildren will earn in their lifetimes has already been given to rich people by trump. But that would be wishful thinking. In any case, I think there’s more energy out there on the left about congressional republican cowardice in the face of trump’s damaging ways than you seem to think there is.
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The funny part is all this thing about peotective tariffs , curbing H1Bs, making more in US, and punishing businesses that outsource overseas is not typically something that comes out of the GOP. It’s something that normally comes out of unions and the Democrats…..the most vocal about foreign competition and anti-“free trade” were all the labor unions and workers losing their manufacturing jobs ….. So from their prospective, I don’t think things are worse. and I seriously doubt they care about some migrants plight at the hands of ICE.
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If tariffs usually come from the left, that does not mean that liberals would agree with the tariffs employed by trump. That would be like saying every hawk would want to nuke North Korea at the slightest provocation. There are tariffs and then there are tariffs which are just slapped on willy nilly to appeal to one’s base and which haven’t been thought through and which make no sense. Trump’s tariffs are costing jobs in the long run.
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I seriously doubt they care about some migrants plight at the hands of ICE.
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Why do you doubt that?
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That’s why I think what most of the democrat party and the left leaning media trying to do is very ineffective. I think the only people that care about this administration’s despicableness are the folks in blue states like CA and NY, who generally have had it good economically throughout the past few years who can afford to care more about the social issues, including migrants/immigrants/etc…. For the rest of middle america, most people are more concerned aboutjust putting food on the table…..That’s why I think there’s a pretty big disconnect with the current Democrat’s party leadership. Barking up the wrong tree…imho.
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The “left leaning media” are reporting the news.
The democratic party is a bunch of ineffectual fools.
The democratic voters see what’s happening to our country, and they don’t like it.
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The democrat party probably won’t win by a landslide and regain full control if it’s trying to make the argument that some immigrant/migrant/foreigner should have the same economic rights/benefits as someone who is a citizen in america in desperate needs of those benefits….It has nothing to do about human decency, and has everything to do with human survival..
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That’s not the chief argument liberals are making. That might be what fox propaganda tells you is the chief argument that liberals are making. But it’s not.
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There are plenty of people in this country struggling and have been struggling for so long, they don’t understand politicians that seem to more concerned about helping people that aren’t even americans before helping them… That’s a losing campaign… That’s why they’ll end up putting up with a despicable Trump versus any sort of polite, polished individual from the left championing migrant/immigrant/DACA rights….. Unlike some of us, who are more or less immune to the economic situation in the US……..when you are struggling financially in America, you have no choice….
The issue about helping migrants/immigrants/DACA/etc has been positioned/perceived as a zero-sum game in which many americans feel they lose economically if those migrants/immigrants/DACA folks win economically. I don’t agree that is really true, but a lot of people think that way. And so, for those people, obviously the care more about their own future than someone else’s…. For that reason, I think some democrats still don’t get that yet.
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Again, you seem to have gotten the idea that the chief argument being made for voting democratic is immigration. Immigration is way, way down on the list. The chief reasons for voting democratic are to keep trump from destroying our society and our country. To prevent him from destroying the rule of law in this country and turning it into a fascist banana republic. To keep a dangerous, unstable fool from having his way.
You may think the economy matters to people above all, regardless of who should get credit for it. I disagree. I guess we’ll see in two months.
