[quote=flu]There’s plenty of rhetoric being through from that side on high tech workers, forign workers, and H1-Bs.[/quote]Rhetoric is one thing. Actual proposal is another. At least no one on the right actually proposed affirmative action.
[quote=flu]I agree. And that has crossed my mind/
In the worst case scenario, we see Hillary win, and Democrats taking over Senate, not taking over House, neither of which is enough to stop a filibuster.[/quote]You think that’s worse case scenario? Worse case scenario would be Republican also lose the house. The Republican is completely fractured and there are 3-4 other parties picking up the pieces and none will be able to compete with the $ from the Democrats and they have control of all 3 branches for decades. Now, that’s worse case scenario.
[quote=flu]In the other scenario, Republicans maintain control both House and Senate and Trump wins, since it’s unlikely Trump would win, while GOP down-ballot senators/house reps lose their seats in the majority. In that case, we would have the lop-sided government. What are the prospects of a Republican only government? Doesn’t that bother you?[/quote]Yes, that does bother me, but I personally think that’s a much much less likely scenario. Maybe you think this is likely if all you watch is Fox.
[quote=flu]I’m more concerned the ALT-Right completely taking over the republican party. Then what? Republican core values are quickly being eroded. No one on the right is really talking about fiscal responsibility, responsible spending, hard work, effort. The same thing coming out of alt-right is the same thing is coming out of far alt-left. It’s someone else’s fault, blame THEM. No one wants to accept responsibility for their own outcome anymore. On top of that, then you got a government that will spend more time on bullshit social conservatism (anti-gay rights, anti-women’s rights, more religious nutjob bullshit), not of which was ever particularly appealing to some of us in the middle anyway.[/quote]I personally give up the Republican party just as I’ve given up the Democrat party in the past. I view them both as hypocrites. It’s funny you’re saying all of the bullshit that is the current Republican party. Those are the exact reason why I’ve given up on them I see them as nothing but hypocrites. Small government my ass. Same as the Dems, pro choice my ass. I personally would like to see the Alt-Right blow up the republican party. I’m tired of these spineless Republicans in congress.
[quote=flu]Republicans establishment never in the past picked a fight with “foreign workers”. Trump changed a lot of this. It starts with illegals, and low skill workers. And then there’s grumblings about H1-Bs and foreign workers…How much longer do you think that the hate over foreign workers and H1-B’s boil over to anyone that looks foreign? This is why I feel this sort of thinking is dangerous. It might not concern you or me right now, since neither of us are hispanic, illegal or muslim. But when does the line get drawn and when does it stop? Answer it won’t. Because none of the uneducated, unskilled people will ever be happy because they won’t ever realize the reason why they are left behind has nothing to do with what everyone else is doing, but rather it has everything to do with what they themselves are not doing. But along the way, they will continue to find every excuse and every reason why they are being left behind… [/quote]I personally think there aren’t as many hardcore Trump supporter who think like what you’re describing. I’m guessing around 20% of the Republican, which is about 5% of Americans. The rest either are just tired of the political class and just want to blow shit up or they’re exactly like you and are voting for the lesser of the two evil.
[quote=flu]Does things like that fox ridicule of chinatown bother you at all? I mean, we’re talking prime time. You think fox would have done something like this in Harlem?
I’m not really trying to convince you, just letting you know where I’m coming from. As pretty good friends with you, I totally respect your position on things, as I can totally understand how in a lot of ways a lot of us have been, well short changed, by bullshit things like what SCA-5 almost tried to do. My take on this is..Fight the current present danger, and fight the other danger when we have more time 🙁 [/quote]I totally respect your decision and understand where you’re coming from. I was just pointing out that CA is going for Hillary, regardless of how you or I vote. So, I personally don’t need to vote for the lesser of the two evil. But I did vote for ALL Dems in the down ballot with hope to blow up the Republican party.
[quote=flu]It’s actually pretty hard to get impeached, it appears. Didn’t we go to war in Iraq on a big lie? Still waiting for those WMD’s….[/quote]Well, Hillary did vote for the Iraq war, going into and staying in Afghanistan, going into and staying in Libya, going into and staying in Syria. So, in term of war, I’m not sure she’ll do anything different than Bush or Obama.
[quote=flu]My definition of long term is probably most people’s definition of short term. I consider 4 years already pretty long. 8 would be an eternity. I don’t expect the damage to be longer than that. But nevertheless it still would suck.[/quote]I guess this is what’s causing us to diverge in deciding who to vote for. I view 4-8 years as short term. I’m sure I can do more than survive 4-8 years regardless of Trump or Hillary. I don’t think both can do that much serious damage in 4-8 years, which I consider as short term. Long term to me is more like 20+ years. I look at the policies both are peddling and see how it will affect me, my kids, my grand kids, etc.
