I didn’t say every democrat is a fool, that was your choice of words interjected into my thoughts which couldn’t be further from the truth.
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I didn’t say those were your words. (Nor did I think I implied that they were.) Those were my words. And I should have been more specific. I didn’t mean every democrat. I meant the democratic party (not every single one of them, but most in general) – the DNC and the senators and the congressmen, etc.
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and that’s what exactly is happening . extreme view points. Many democrats and republicans are falling for it. no I don’t watch fox news or breibart , and yet I disagree with your viewpoint you probably immediate think I do.
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I didn’t guess that you watch fox because you disagree with me. In fact, all we’ve disagreed on so far is whether there will be a blue wave and why.
I guessed you watch fox because you seem to think that immigration is progressives’ chief concern. Fox (and a lot of right-wing media) seems to think that, and really no one else does.
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I think many people in this country are just sick and tired about extremism from both parties. And me thinks a lot of democrats, have been pushed to the other side in as much as several republicans have been.
Plenty of moderates republicans still are left that don’t agree with the rest of our party, but here you are labeling everyone the same.
we haven’t learned anything for the past 12 years .
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What? Where am I labelling everyone the same?
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Anyway, I am just pointing out the polarization of our country that both parties have been responsible for something people can choose to understand and fix next time, or we can keep violently swinging back and forth like between one sided perspectives for a long long time.
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I don’t think that’s happening right now is a polarization of conservative vs. progressive views. I think what’s happening right now is polarization about an unfit leader. Most of the energy among progressives right now isn’t about conservative issues (except maybe the tax cuts for the rich). Most of it is about trump.
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just one tiny issue. I find it hard to believe that every democrat agree with affirmative action. I suspect many of them strongly disagree with it… However , how come the idea of AA reform has never been brought up by democrats? Could it be that every democrat is just going with the party flow, irrespective of how bad things have gotten for some? If so, how is that any different from a bunch of republicans just running off the cliff with Donald trump?
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Come on, flu. You’re really comparing going with the flow on AA vs. going with the flow on trump? AA is an important issue. (I’m against AA, as I’ve said on these pages before). But to compare it with the national emergency that is Donald trump is absurd.
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That’s the problem with our political parties … members often are so extreme same thing rehashed by s different party brand is viewed good bit from a different party is bad.
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And on an issue like affirmative action, or something equally important (which is to say, relative to the issue of trump, not that important), one can expect that to happen. It’s unfortunate, but it’s not the end of the world. Trump, on the other hand, could be.
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Just a few years ago, a lot of democrats were pushing Obama for protective tariffs. now that we have them, some of the same leaders are saying how horrible it is…
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Again, just because you’re for one tariff doesn’t mean you’re for all of them. A poorly-thought out tariff which exists solely for political purposes and which actually costs Americans jobs is not the same as a well-designed one which is designed for (and serves) an economic purpose.
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I am pretty much done on this subject . I don’t want to get into a argument here. basically I have a feeling that trying to discuss this will you will end up on you calling me a dumb trumptard, despite me not liking him and not really supporting most of his policies except one.
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Wow. Not sure where that came from. If you show yourself to be a dumb trumptard, I will call you one. If you don’t, I won’t. I defy you to find a single instance of me calling anyone a name in all of my history on this forum who I can’t show you exactly where they earned it with their own writing.
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It’s usually how it goes when we get hell bent on party affiliation. Me? I couldnt give a shit about either party affiliation.
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I don’t care about either party, either. I care about our country. I’ll be voting democrat this November because I care about our country and I think trump needs to be corralled. Not because I have any affection for democrats, but because they’re the ones who will corral trump.
