[quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=flu]Because I never thought I would vote for Hillary, lol. Ok, let me correct that. I’m probably not a California Democrat. More like a Bible state democrat. lol.[/quote]
What does that even mean? So you’re OK with higher taxes, bigger government, just as long as they don’t touch college acceptance?[/quote]
AN you know me pretty well. And you know that I would never be Ok with higher taxes and bigger government.
BUT, at this point, I’m more concerned with a longer term damage Trump does to this country than a shorter term damage that Hillary might do to my taxes.
He represents everything wrong about this country, every sorry excuse people make for themselves on why they can’t get ahead. He’s an enabler for people who hate just for the sake of hating, latino, muslims, blacks, and later indians, asians, jews. Maybe not all Trump supporters are like that, but there’s enough of them to make it a problem. And enough of them that I believe if he wins, it could be a problem for not me, but my kids and your kids, especially if they don’t plan on growing up in CA.
I can’t for the life of me explain to my kid how a Trump “President” behaves and acts the way he does as acceptable behavior. Now extrapolate his demeanor and his behavior to the parents and family that think what he is doing is nothing wrong, and pretty soon you have a bunch of little punks that also will end up saying shit to your kid like “Trump is going to send you colored people home”. Shit that was a really bad memory when I was growing up and people like us really were a minority in CA. People always say, things can’t get “that bad” in California. And that’s true. But why must I or my kid be forced to stay in California in order to feel safe or protected? That’s bullshit. My kid has so much more to lose. Neither I or my kid has the luxury to afford a Trump fvckup and his extreme followers in charge. Neither my kid or I are white. We don’t have the privilege of “experimenting” with Trump screwing around with his talk of a theoretical border wall built to keep latinos, or profiling muslims because all of them are terrorists, or his tough talk against chinese who are all hackers and spies and stealing “our jobs”, and on and on and on. These are luxuries a (for a lack of the better word) white family and white kids have, because no matter what Trump does, or how outrageous he casts his “blame net” on, it is very unlikely to ever impact a “white family”. Sure, it’s very easy for some of his supporters to say “Trump is being honest, and I’m so glad he’s not PC”. Again, they are white, and no matter what he does, yes they are correct, their life won’t change significantly no matter what he does. You, me, your kid, my kid, we’re not so lucky. Maybe we aren’t going be a target first, maybe we won’t ever be a target. You want to take a chance? I don’t. While as I don’t give a flying fvck about me, I do care a lot about my kid and the world that my kid will have to grow up in.
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As far as the rest of Hillary is concerned, I don’t give a flying fvck about all the “other issues” that the extreme right wing noise machine continues to make. I don’t care about Bill, I don’t care about Benghazi, about the email, nor do I really give a flying fvck about the Clinton Foundation. All these issues are of no concern to me, relative to the bigger issue that a Trump presidency presents for my kid.[/quote]
flu/flu redux/bullishgurl/fat_lazy_union, et al:
I have never read such a warped version of a “woe is me, me and my kids are/will be so disadvantaged” (with a Trump presidency) diatribe in my entire life! That is the biggest crock of BS that I have seen in a lo-o-o-o-ng time. Didn’t you grow up in CA? Was that in the ’80’s or ’90’s? If so, why don’t you tell the Piggs what backwoods CA city/town you grew up in where you were called “colored?” I myself attended elementary school in a suburban area of the SF Bay area where we had 8-14 “Chinese” classmates in each class. Yes, the classes back then were larger than today (30-40 students) because we boomers were a large generation, close-in bay area cities were growing rapidly and there were no class-size limitations in place at that time. All of us kids learned in groups together and played together, no matter HOW we looked! Good L@rd, we’re talking the early ’60’s here!
Last time I looked, (9/26/16 when I was surrounded by them in LA’s SGV), most “Chinese people” were “whiter” than “Caucasian people,” lol …. you know, those same peeps you’re calling “white” and “the most advantaged” and “nothing impacts them?”
Can you point me to any videos where Trump stated that, “All Chinese are hackers or spies?” YES, he’s said China has taken millions of our jobs. WHY?? Because our esteemed “leaders in charge” GAVE THEM AWAY! THAT’s EXACTLY what Trump said . . . he has NOTHING against Chinese workers or citizens.
flu, et al, you desperately need to get out more and hit the road 1-2x per year! I think you will find that you, your family and all your “Muslim” or “East Indian” friends coming along for the ride are welcome everywhere from SD to Brownsville, TX or SD to Atlanta . . . or all the way to Key West, if you so choose. You will also find that you will be welcome from SD to Wilmington, NC, SD to Baltimore MD or SD to Teaneck, NJ. Pick your poison E/W Interstate. And be sure to stop at a few truck stops along the way and sit at the counter and start talking to people!
And your kid will most certainly be welcome in any college or job she accepts in the entire country no matter who becomes president in 2017! And I believe you actually KNOW this at some level.
It is beyond clear here that YOU have been living in some sort of a self-imposed bubble and are completely out of touch with everything outside of it. You’ve clearly got a chip on your shoulder the size of the Grand Canyon! You would do well to drop it and quit blaming others (“white people?” . . . and Trump) for everything you find distasteful in the MSM.
This mindset is mind-boggling to me, coming from the likes of you, flu. Someone who’s grown up in AMERICA with every advantage and has been more successful than most as an adult. Just unbelievable … :=0