[quote=felix][quote=afx114]I wonder if asking whether or not torture works is even relevant to the issue at hand. It seems to me that if we signed a treaty against the use of torture, we are bound by that treaty to not torture. [/quote]
That is why I have written, at least twice, it is important and a starting point to any discussion to define torture.
Legal opinion given to the Bush Administration indicated that the techniques sanctioned for use by US interrogators were not torture. So, assuming one accepts those opinions, that would render the discussion of treaties moot.[/quote]
It seems pretty simple, nobody can or will do much about what the United States does with regard to illegal wars and torture. Torture is up for debate for the purpose of political fighting and various propaganda purposes.Many people sincerely care but they don’t matter much. Let’s have a little bit of mooted debate,make political headway,damage control where we can, whitewash it,then go back to making claims and promises that will never be kept.Invade Iran.
