[quote=deadzone]
You are nuts if you believe H1B is not a threat. Do you want your kids to have to compete with lower cost imported labor? Regardless of how “good” they are, net result is negative for the American worker. Just like with all the immigration debate, the only Americans that benefit from this are the employers.[/quote]
Did I say they weren’t a threat in some way?
Previously, I merely pointed out that you’re worrying about the wrong thing (if you’re worried at all) The H1-B business model is less of a threat than completely moving the entire group/division to a remote location, where you can save a lot more money, more so than hiring H1-B versus non H1-B. Most big tech companies have some remote office location now, and most big companies do this to some extent because it is more cost effective than hiring H1-B, in this day and again. You are so far behind the times if you think that H1-B is still the problem, and so out of touch with what companies really try to do these days..
I have not seen throughout the many years of hiring at my company that we paid someone on H1-B less than someone for the same position that wasn’t on H1-B. It probably does happen at a less than idea job at some seedy company, or for contracting work, which is more of a chop shop thing anyway. The entire contractor/contracting thing is just a seedy business model to begin with, and usually for shitty jobs and shitty temp positions, in a game between recruiters and headhunters and employers .
Every big company that wanted to “save on labor costs” for FTE’s did so by setting up a shop overseas because “for the price of 1 engineer we can hire here in the U.S. H1-B or not, we can hire X engineers in bangalore or beijing”, as they say.
And, I’m merely responding to your response about how great engineering is relative to other white collar professions, and pointing out the contradictory things you just stated about how great engineering is at the same time how lousy it can be wrto a threat from H1-B….
Do doctors run the risk of getting outsourced (right now?) How about lawyers? How about real estate agents? Again, I’m not complaining about engineering, because like I said, I like doing it. But clearly, financially it’s not *that* great if you factor everything, not just a starting salary. Who gives a shit about starting salary. I think W2 income ends up being taxed such that your first 3-4 months out of every year’s total paycheck goes to the IRS and FTB anyway…
And, no I’m not worried about an H1-B. Never had, never will. I’m more concerned about a company calling it quits and moving the entire division overseas when it’s no longer innovating and just doing incremental enhancements.
