[quote=CardiffBaseball]
Nonsense have you ever gotten into fist-fights? Why would you think getting a it’s a done deal to have concussion because you get knocked down, and the guy gets on top and starts to ground and pound. If this were the case every person who’s ever lost a fight would have concussion symptoms. If TM is on top smacking him with punches, it does hurt a little perhaps, but it’s doubtful it will cause a concussion.
I once got ground/pounded by a bully, he had the upper hand, people thought I was finished, I somehow escaped and we got back to our feet. I came in faked a big overhand right meant to load the left side he had ducked a little away from the right and I knocked him out with a left hook he never saw it coming. Spun his head around as he went to the ground I hit him so hard. I’d venture to say he hit my face 25 times? I hit his face once, which one of us is more likely to have concussion symptoms? Being on bottom is more of a nuisance that will cut you up you won’t get a concussion most likely. Same with the head smacking on the pavement nobody said it had to crush his skull, it’s possible he didn’t get a good hold of his head and only grazed it.
Also I bleed like crazy. I had braces on, and the guy was hitting me with his class ring. He was sitting there in a daze not able to stand up for a minute or so, with no blood. A casual observer would say I got my pounded but outside of having braces it didn’t hurt at all and most of it wiped right off.[/quote]
It would be better if you actually read what I wrote. Ground and pound is one thing. It’s a whole different thing to get your head beaten into concrete pavement. Yes, I’ve been in fights (many many years ago), and been punched in the mouth with closed fists more times than I want to remember. But never had my head bashed into pavement. Happened to a close friend. He’s dead. And he only got thrown to the ground and hit his head.
Did you see Zimmerman’s lawyer’s demonstration with the dummy? It wasn’t fists to the face. It was lift by the shoulders and ram down to the ground, back of head hitting pavement at high velocity. That never happened. Nobody ever walks away from that with two little cuts. Nobody walks away from that without a concussion.