[quote=CA renter]It doesn’t matter whether or not the underlying conditions are sustainable? Of course, these conditions can last far longer than most skeptics would think imaginable, but I’d venture to guess that when the SHTF moment does occur, the duration and extent of the manipulations will be mirrored in the final aftermath, and then some.[/quote]It doesn’t matter whether or not the underlying conditions are sustainable or not. It doesn’t change my statement, which states that we didn’t have a crash in 2001. Which is why I ask him why he picked 2001. If today is 2001, I would be quite happy.