[quote=briansd1]The Supreme Court has spoken on the subject of SB1070.
All the AZ state police can do is investigate the immigration status of people apprehended, if there is reasonable suspicion. And even that provision is on hold pending further litigation. It’s doubtful that AZ can setup a fair mechanism to comply with that provision of the law.
Sorry guys, the court has ruled and my side has been vindicated.[/quote]
Brian, dude, even the ILLEGALS themselves will freely admit they are illegal.
What you are arguing is totally counterproductive for what you are trying to achieve.
Here’s the bottom line if you call the illegals “undocumented”: since these foreign nationals are undocumented, let’s get them back to their countries of origin to obtain the proper documentation. Otherwise, how do we know maybe Jose is really Jorge, or Zhang is really Zhou? They were born somewhere where proper certificate of birth was generated, that is their documentation, if they are undocumented, then it is very logical to say they need to go back an obtain those documents.
Now, if these are illegals, at least they have documentation to prove they are who they said they are. This is a whole lot better than someone that is completely without documentation, as the term “undocumented” implies. As their status are currently illegal, policies can be made based on the existence of criminal record or lack thereof, or if they made good and went to college or served the country, to correct the current illegal status into a legal one. And if we find one to be unfit for conversion to legal status, deportation.
The first step in treatment is always the proper diagnosis.
A morbidly obese person will not seek treatment if he thinks he is just a little chub, slightly heavy, big boned, or just overweight. But proper diagnosis of clinical morbid obesity will frequently prompt action. Same with alcoholics, they have to admit they truly are alcoholics before help can take place. Saying they just drink a bit too much or they just party at little harder does nothing for them.
Same with calling illegals undocumented, it doesn’t help them at all, not one bit.