The first link discussion is centered around some ideas expressed by the famous and highly regarded former board member of The NYC chapter of NOW, Warren Farrell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Farrell
It’s nice when one of the books you have read and really got something out of, the author of said book, and his subsequent books, have stood up to the test of time.
Sorry, he is a man, I really apologize for that, but his work is highly acclaimed by some women too!
I know times are changing but I look around and see some familiar patterns as apparently do a lot other piggs. Hot women never go out of style, for instance.[/quote]
I’m fairly familiar with Warren Farrell. He’s no feminist. NOW is strongly opposed to much of what he preaches (they parted ways years ago). His views completely ignore the different biology and hormones of men and women. He’s one of the most powerful forces behind the “Second Wives/Fathers’ Rights” movement that seeks to take away any of the few remaining safeguards provided to women (or men) who give up everything — especially wage earning — in order to care for their families.
And here’s an article quoting him on his research that finds that most people in incestual relationships have a positive experience. He states that the reason girls don’t like having their fathers or other male relatives rape them is because:
“Girls are much more influenced by the dictates of society and are more willing to take on sexual guilt.”
Is it any wonder that NOW disagreed strongly with his push for father custody or full 50/50 custody arrangements, irrespective of who was more responsible for the child-rearing during the marriage, and irrespective of the age of the child (including breastfeeding children)?
He goes on to say this:
“First, because millions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and genitally caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves. Maybe this needs repressing, and maybe it doesn’t. My book should at least begin the exploration.”
[page 6, from above link]
He also claims that many children who accuse their fathers of sexual or physical abuse in custody cases are really “victims” of PAS — Parental Alienation Syndrome. Gee, I wonder why.
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Here he is defending date rape:
From “The Myth of Male Power”:
“If a man ignoring a woman’s verbal ‘no’ is committing date rape, then a woman who says `no’ with her verbal language but ‘yes’ with her body language is committing date fraud. And a woman who continues to be sexual even after she says ‘no’ is committing date lying.
“Do women still do this? Two feminists found the answer is yes. Nearly 40 percent of college women acknowledged they had said “no” to sex even “when they meant yes.” In my own work with over 150,000 men and women – about half of whom are single – the answer is also yes. Almost all single women acknowledge they have agreed to go back to a guy’s place “just to talk” but were nevertheless responsive to his first kiss. Almost all acknowledge they’ve recently said something like “That’s far enough for now,” even as her lips are still kissing and her tongue is still touching his.
“We have forgotten that before we called this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting.
