[quote=bearishgurl]Lol, I just sat down to take a stab on Joe and Jane Sixpack’s tax return and see zk’s latest rants and then decide to review the thread to refresh my memory:
[quote=zk]. . . bg, if you want to make me look stupid instead of yourself, try using my words instead of what you’ve been doing. I know I don’t give you much to work with, but if you’re patient it’ll probably happen for you.[/quote]
Good L@rd, zk. You’re now beginning to sound narcissistic with your last few rants.
YOU already gave me (and whoever else who wants to bite, lol) plenty to ammunition to make fun of your situation (as you describe it here) all the while vociferously berating people simply because they state here that they don’t like to be surrounded by untidiness or filth (I’m not a perfect housekeeper but I AM firmly in the FIH/brian camp).
To each his own.
[quote=zk]When I travel (I should say travelled, it’s different now that I’m married), I didn’t insist on daily room service. But I preferred it so that I didn’t have to clean. I will clean if I have to (I won’t tidy up, though, generally). I’m messy, but I’m not dirty. I don’t like cleaning, but I do it because I insist on clean. If somebody will do it for me, perfect.[/quote]
zk, you actually stated earlier in this thread that you believe it is essentially okay that you are messy, sloppy, whatever, because you don’t cheat on your spouse, you aren’t a spendthrift and aren’t a rapist or pedophile, none of which has anything to do with being clean or “tidy.” YOU yourself brought up all these attributes to compare with being a “messy person” right here on this thread! Later, above, you’ve stated here that you won’t “tidy up” (pick up after yourself) and, “If somebody will do it for (you), perfect.”
Glad you hear that you (hopefully) found a partner who will constantly pick up after you. Nevermind you can only invite half a dozen people at a time in your (expensive and expansive) back yard, can’t have a small super bowl party without a lot of grief afterwards and don’t travel anymore (due to your marital status?)
To the reader of your posts, it appears that you are clearly paying the price for having a partner who will constantly pick up after you. Whether you are paying a fair price (or not) for that service is in the eye of the beholder.
Don’t come here and talk about yourself ad nauseaum and then later backpedal in numerous paragraphs trying to defend yourself and say that someone got the wrong idea about you. Nobody did that, least of all me. You came here and did it to yourself … all without being prompted or cajoled. You even admitted here that you gave 97% in your relationship and then later backpedaled and stated you gave only ~45%. I can read your posts and surmise your situation from them just fine as can everyone else. I’ve been a lot of places in life and talked to a lot of people who have (or had) partnerships similar to what you describe yours to be here. If you have a “tacit agreement” with your partner about particular issues, that’s fine. It’s a free country.
If you’re happy, zk, then we’re all happy for you. Notice that I haven’t tried to insult you here but you have found it necessary to call me numerous names here, including “stupid,” as well as telling me, “fvck you,” which I’m assuming is another one of your defense mechanisms.
I’m about the least “emotional” one can be on this forum. As a matter of fact, the opposite can be said about me. I’ve tried on numerous occasions to inject a semblance of reality into other posters who became “emotional” (or just over-the-top “concerned”) about issues for which they were not considering all the facts and/or did not know all the facts. Two examples which come to mind would be rejecting a perfectly decent house on a perfectly decent street because of the presence of a nearby PC 290 registrant in residence or lambasting Pigg krowe (or her case or “misdeeds”) when she has not yet been tried in a court of law and has not yet had her day(s) in an administrative tribunal where her employment status will be adjudicated. There have been many other examples over the years. I’m only concerned about how the “system” actually works and how the the world works, NOT how I think it “should be.” I don’t care how the MSM has chosen to spin their latest “darling” story so it will “sell” to the (largely ignorant and complacent) public.
zk, your insults to me on this thread don’t bother me but are very telling about you. Why don’t you endeavor to just stick to the topic at hand and refrain from hurling insults at people who don’t have the same opinions that you do? The examples you gave about yourself here are fine. It’s perfectly legal to be “messy” (and have a partner who will pick up after them). We get it. OTOH, it’s okay for FIH/brian and others to consider themselves “superior” to messy people because they are clean and tidy.[/quote]
Here are the quotes regarding zk’s cleaning habits after getting married, and how they both needed to compromise on things.
[quote=zk][quote=FlyerInHi]zk, if your wife can notice an out-of-place paper clip, and she married you, then you can’t be that bad. [/quote]
Not true. It was a massive adjustment for both of us. I’m probably 97% neater than I used to be. And for her to overlook (or clean up herself) that last 3% is probably harder for her than picking up after myself is for me (and that’s pretty hard).[/quote]
It’s clear that he is NOT claiming to give 97% in the relationship (and then backpedaled to say he was giving 45%). It is very clear that he was speaking specifically about cleaning, and that his *personal* cleaning habits have “improved” by about 97%, but that the 3% that have not improved are probably harder on his wife than his changed habits are on him. He later said that he probably gives about 45% in his marriage, overall. That is VERY different than what you claim he said, BG.
[quote=zk]I managed to get permission to have a small super bowl party last year. Had about 20 or 25 people over. It took me a year to get permission, and I heard about it for a month after. Not doing that again.
So there are disadvantages. But, hey, to make a marriage work, you have to work together and compromise. I do most of the giving in this particular area, but she more than makes up for it in other areas.
So, I don’t see myself as lucky that my wife is neat. I see the advantages of it, but overall it’s not a benefit.[/quote]
Here, zk is trying (in vain) to explain to you that marriage requires sacrifices and concessions on the part of both spouses; without those, it will NOT work. I agree 100% with him on this.