[quote=AN][quote=ocrenter]3. if we can actually remove all subsidies to Big Oil I would personally fly back to DC and hand deliver my solar and my EV rebates directly back to the IRS with a big bow on top.
4. That’s great, thanks for the link. I’m open to any alternative to fossil fuel. Any idea when the production version of solid oxide fuel cell will be hitting the streets? As for battery, battery density is getting incredibly good in extremely short period of time. As for degradation, aside from the first gen LEAFs in extreme weather locations, degradation has been minimal.
5. Agree about incentivizing walkability, much healthier and will help with the obesity epidemic. Not only that, cities don’t have to pay for maintenance of huge number of roads. Once the oil subsidies are gone, we would have plenty of funds to consider the all of the above strategies.
6. If there comes a time when the batteries are fully exausted, as in down to less than 30% capacity, the lithium is recyclable.[/quote]
3. It’s funny you say that, but then you fully support the creation of the next “Big Oil”. As we’ve seen, once money have been doled out, it’s hard to close the spigot.
4. I saw them on 60 minutes many years ago. They at the time were promising residential units, but I think for financial reason, they’re concentrating on business first. Although as you can see, I hate crony capitalism, but if we must dole out government subsidies, I rather it be dump into these Fuel Cell companies to help them reduce the size and have these units be put in every home. That would make a much bigger dent in CO2 emission than BEV IMHO. This is why I don’t believe in crony capitalism. I want want one possible new technology to get unfair advantage over another, when we don’t really know which technology is the right technology. Maybe they all are and all are needed at different time for different purpose.
5. Totally agree.
6. Studies have shown a 70% capacity battery have about 10 years life served as grid storage. We’re talking about about 15-20 years life span. Nickel-metal hydride batteries are better for recycling because of the Nickel. The advanced lithium batteries in most plug-in cars today are more difficult to recycle, in part because automakers use various chemistries, and the several chemical components have different recycling values. However, lithium-nickel-manganese-cobalt batteries found in many modern plug-in cars are better because of the nickel. But I don’t think the lithium, manganese, and cobalt are easily recyclable.[/quote]
Everyone is anti-crony capitalism. So propose a way to make the fight a fair fight and we are all good. And that includes finding a way to prevent the Koch brothers from launching their multi-million attack on EVs.
As for battery recycling, the tech for lithium recycling is here and present, it is doable.
