[quote=AN]1. Subsidizer or paying their fair share. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.
2. I don’t believe BEV will ever replace this group of vehicles. So they should be used to compare. You should compare Apple to Apple.
3. I don’t believe government should pick winner and loser. Just because there were past crony capitalism with the oil industry doesn’t make it OK for crony capitalism for industry you like. If the technology is good, there will be plenty of money available. Just thinking k Facebook, Uber, etc.
4. Again, you’re assuming battery is the right technology long term. I don’t believe it is. I believe fuel cell, nuclear and fusion is better long term. But that’s just MHO. Maybe 10 years from now something else even better will be discovered. We don’t know. What happened. To those battery when that new technology get discovered?
5. It would take me 6x longer than those who have 30 miles one way commute. But my point is, if you’re OK for subsidizing for EV because it will lower a person’s carbon foot print, should I get subsidy for reducing my carbon foot print by living closer to work? Should those who live in larger houses pay subsidy to those who live in smaller homes? Should people in SFR pay subsidy to those who live in condo due to their increase carbon footprint? Should those with kids pay subsidies for those who don’t have kids? Since having kids increase the total carbon footprint of our society. I’m sure you get my point.
6. I agree. However, I don’t want to be those people who drink 6 cans of diet coke a day either, just because it has less sugar. That’s similar to those who have EV but live 30 miles away from work in a 3000+ sq-ft house.
7. Agree. But which infrastructure? Which technology?
Why isn’t it sustainable and who are we to say those other poor countries can’t have a cheap and reliable source of energy? The same energy source that enable us to live in the luxurious life we enjoy and allow our economy to prosper.[/quote]
1. I would simply add that SDGE’s backtracking to a 2 tier system is essentially acknowledging their prior charge regime overcharged the tier 4 customers.
2. never tried to compare BEVs with delivery trucks. LOL!!! The point made at the very beginning was overwhelming damage on the road is caused by heavy delivery trucks and up. That’s all. The most equitable way of taxing may be by vehicle weight.
3. if you have an industry supported by trillions in its war chest that is continuing to be fed by tax payer dollar having essentially a monopoly in the arena of fuel, how does new tech brake in? Facebook did not have to face a government subsidized behemoth monopolizing social media.
4. fuel cell is energy inefficient. we need to use energy to generate the liquid hydrogen, then use the liquid hydrogen to generate electricity. This is just as inefficient with gasoline, where electricity and water are needed to refine the gasoline that is then burnt to generate the energy to power cars. nuclear and fusion will generate energy but you still need to store that energy in order to minimize the need to keep the power plants running even during low power use times. having energy storage is a win win regardless of the type of generation. Just like the HIV epidemic allowed for the blossoming of treatments for hepatitis B and C, the need for high density energy storage created by BEVs will lead to a whole new way to store electricity and for us to manage our energy resources.
5. whereas right now, gasoline is subsidized by the government, therefore, people with longer commutes and driving gas guzzlers are rewarded disproportionately as they are consuming more of a subsidized fuel. that has been and will continue to be because Big Oil has too much pull within the government. As for SFR vs condo, that’s happening right now, the mortgage deduction will benefit someone that buys the pricier SFR instead of that cheaper condo.
6. problem here is people are going to live 30 miles away regardless, you might as well make that 60 mile round trip commute CO2 free by getting these guys to put up solar and get an EV.
7. I’m talking charging infrastructure with installation of EVSEs.
fossil fuel use and CO2 generation is not sustainable if all of the world is to follow our lead and live the way we do. unless you feel excess CO2 is a good thing.
