[quote=air_ogi]
That was a bad error. Melting of Himalayan ice caps is one of those end of civilization deals.
But if you are going to discard all the IPCC date based on that, you might as well disregard all scientific data from any institution that ever made an error. In which case, there is no point arguing with you.
There is plenty of climate change data. You just choose to ignore it.[/quote]
Air: I do? I choose to ignore it? Given that you don’t know me, how do you know that? In point of fact, I don’t choose to ignore it, I simply pointed out the misuse of data. The problem with East Anglia and IPCC has more to do with politicizing science, than shoddy research or a faulty review process. And, as we both know, the Himalayan mistake was not the only one made.
I work in blast engineering and am in a partnership with a major research university, so please don’t preach to me about mistakes or disregarding data from academic institutions. I’m extremely cognizant of university politics, especially within those institutions that rely heavily on government grants.
If the argument is going to be substantive, it has to be backed by meaningful data, and the costs need to be detailed and weighed against the benefits. Simply throwing numbers about is pointless. That was the problem with Kyoto, and it was never fully addressed, and then that particular chicken came home to roost again in Copenhagen.