I have not in this conversation ever said that “left” was a bad thing. I have also not said that “neocon” was good. However, in the discussion of the ideology, which approach will produce the desired results? My statement, my thesis is that the answer is not Obama. When you engage in a diplomatic action or negotiation, you need to serve your client and honestly the left has shown that it has other concerns on its mind. To prove this point, I have shown how Obama’s statements and an honest discussion of history show such a mindset.
Have I called Obama an idiot? No. Have I called anyone of you guys idiots? No. At best I have accused you guys of being uninformed. At best I have said Obama has some serious issues when it comes to experience and knowledge of history. Guys, try actually reading through my posts instead of instantly saying “neocon!”. You assume that I am a “neocon” as well. How do you know? Have I said I am? Have I said that “neocon good, left bad?”. Unfortunately, many of you who are harping on me are more interested in calling me names as opposed to actually arguing the point. So what if I am a neocon? What if I am a leftist? Does that invalidate my argument? No it does not.
I also emphasized in a previous post that I do not in fact oppose diplomacy or negotiation. However, that negotiation must be carried out properly and with a certain amount of conviction for the client (the U.S.). An ideology that believes that the U.S. is at fault for the situation will not produce the desired results. Since Obama (and those he surrounds himself with) adheres to that belief, I do not wish him to be President.
And by the way, using George W. Bush as the primary means of impeaching an argument is still an “ad hominem” attack and falls well short of a point in attacking said argument.
(the question asked was, when did diplomacy/negotiation turn into a weakness. The answer was the Neville Chamberlain “Peace in our Time” speech. I was not saying anything negative about Neville Chamberlain, Obama, or Bush. I was just stating a known fact.).
Again, you can say “neocon” is a bad word and you can say “left” is a good word. GO AHEAD. It does not attack my argument. (maybe if we spend one more page on this, everyone will get my point).
