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davelj
16 years ago

I can’t speak to the San
I can’t speak to the San Diego employment figures, but at the national level the BLS reported 20,000 jobs lost in April. The birth/death model CONTRIBUTED 267,000 jobs in April, helping us net down to “just” 20,000 jobs lost. Among the many statistical gymnastics performed, the birth/death model reported that 40,000 construction jobs were created by new construction firms in April. Read that again and try to keep a straight face. The “real” number of jobs lost at the national level in April was probably in the neighborhood of 250,000+ because the birth/death model numbers should probably be flat to negative at this point.

And the energy component of the CPI was negative for April. Read that again. Oil prices? Up. Gas prices? Up. Natural gas prices? Up. So how in the HELL do they come up with a price decline in energy for April? I guess solar and wind energy costs stayed the same. Maybe they’ve got a higher weighting in that component of the CPI now.

I swear I think the government is just making these numbers up at this point they’re so divorced from reality. It would be laughable if it weren’t so important.

ucodegen
16 years ago
Reply to  davelj

I swear I think the
I swear I think the government is just making these numbers up at this point they’re so divorced from reality. It would be laughable if it weren’t so important.

Maybe its in Euros, not dollars. Fuel prices have been fairly constant when calculated in Euros.

http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/graph120.html

or maybe Chinese Yuan..

http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/CNY/graph120.html

Man.. I feel my wallet getting lighter already, and I have not even pulled it out!

http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/ISK/graph120.html

Oh man!!

Daniel
16 years ago
Reply to  davelj

Dave,
FYI: the energy CPI

Dave,

FYI: the energy CPI component is seasonally adjusted, because gasoline prices have a very strong seasonal component. Same as home sales, by the way.

You’re right about the BLS birth-death model, but, in all fairness, their numbers get revised several times, and they probably get them right in the end (long after the fact, as in years). The problem with all these real time statistics is that they’re notoriously prone to revisions. This is no conspiracy, it’s a simple fact. For example, GDP numbers are released at the end of a quarter, then they get heavily revised for a couple of quarters afterwards, then they get smaller revisions for another couple of years, and there are sometimes revisions even 10 years later. I’m not kidding.

equalizer
16 years ago
Reply to  Daniel

It’s pretty amazing that
It’s pretty amazing that every single time we change the models the unemployment rate and inflation rate goes down.
Had some liberal econ prof state basically below, never believe damn liberals. But in this case it is fact. Whenever numbers appear anti-populist, we get to change the game and nobody will believe those stupid libs! HA.

From the Big Picture:

“Lastly, as to the conspiracy theories, I have my own take on it: The government doesn’t respect you enough to lie. They actually put out all of the official statistics reach month for anyone with the time and interest to plow through them. All of these data runs, adjustments, changes to CPI, historical data — its all online, waiting for you to review it, and be mollified or outraged.

Most people don’t bother . . .”

Here’s example of inflation stats
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20080417-9999-1n17inflate.html

Here’s non-seasonally adjusted data

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/05/nonseasonally-a.html#comments

equalizer
16 years ago
Reply to  equalizer

For those who hate MSM, I
For those who hate MSM, I will post from our greatest economist, Larry Kudlow commenting on Barry Ritholtz, author of the excellent Big Picture blog.

May 15, 2008

“Incidentally, this morning’s drop in industrial production supports his recession case (even while many other indicators run counter to it). But one thing is certain: Barry’s warnings about rising headline inflation have proven most prescient. In fact, a populist election revolt against high food and gasoline prices is occurring right now.”

Even Larry recognizes that all these stats cant cover up for $3.80 gas prices and 4.50 diesel prices. ($4.8 diesel in CA)

Semi: Filling up their 18-wheel, 80,000-pound leviathans can cost more than $1,300 these days.

LostCat
15 years ago
Reply to  equalizer

LostCat
Does anyone know

LostCat

Does anyone know what percent of the USA’s economy comes from each sector group?