Well toots FWIW I was trying to give a mostly positive spin, but I was down there a lot and didn’t want to move my family so I empathize. I could have moved to Raleigh from Northeast Ohio anytime I wanted to over the 2+ years I held that job, but I just couldn’t pull the trigger. So we never left Ohio.

I still think overall it’s a nice place and I’d consider relocating there for the same rate of pay, but in my field that is highly unlikely. Much more to do here in SD.

SAS is just outside of or else partially in Cary and they are always spoken of as a fantastic place to work. 60 Minutes once did a special on them. Cary has nearly 100K people so comparing to CV is probably not fair. Population-wise it’s closer in size to Vista (Cary is listed as 96K, Vista around 90K).