Thankfully most people here refer to 50% off jokingly or in reference to a fall they are hopeful of, peak to trough. A reduction off a list price 10%-20% is really the goal and that takes a lot of work and sacrifice. For those of us that are not in love with clocking in and clocking out somewhere to give the seller a 10-20% bonus that is pretty valuable.

“To me if the market is not where I can comfortably afford to buy I’ll simply wait it out or move elsewhere.”

If it came down to leaving or using BS tactics like offering 20% below list I’d give the BS tactics a try first.

It really is a matter of personalities. I know for instance that my inlaws are too polite to offer anything less than what the realtor says, which as you know, won’t usually be very assertive.