[quote=scaredyclassic]This discussion and my response was predeterminable from the moment the universe came into being.

And this too.

Also this.

This?

Yeah that.

Nothing could have happened any other way than it did and will. You cannot make any difference whatsoever.

It is what it is.

With enough computer power and a sufficient program, the fart I just let loose could have been foreseen from the moment of the big bang[/quote]

Classic! You have missed your calling scaredy. You should have been a writer. Or perhaps that is what you can do in retirement!