[quote=ltsdd][quote=The-Shoveler]LOL this is why FIRE is actually a problem.

Your meant to pursue happiness not achieve it.

Else who is going to keep everything running.[/quote]

If pursuing happiness is your goal then FIRE is certainly one way that would allow you to do so.

For many people work != happiness – it just simply pay the fvcking bills.[/quote]

Imho that’s pretty sad. I never understood why people feel compelled to get stuck in something they hate doing. it’s like getting stuck in a bad relationship only worse. It’s at least 5 days 8 hours a day.

I think there is a misconception that if one quits and does nothing at all , it will solve everything. For a lot of people , staying home and doing nothing would be eternal boredom. I like going to work to see people and talk to people. Second, if you’re working whether it’s at a job or your on biz, you always have a boss. it’s either a physical boss or a bunch of customers. So the real question is which “boss” is the most that’s most tolerable.

And then there is a price of convenience of being an employee versus running your own business. and that depends on what industry you are in. For example. At one point it made sense to be an independent contractor in tech. not as much anymore, it depends on what you do and how specialized you are.

For example IT support and help desk, the markets is getting smaller and smaller to do a small shop computer support specialist shops. You don’t need to hire someone with a college degree to do some basic maintenance these days. People I know hire a bunch of bright high school students. Did you know that for example that at Canyon Crest Academy, they have a high school CS program that by the time you graduate from CCA, you are better prepared for the CS/IT world than many people that graduate from college? On the other hand, due to various difficultly in obtaining work visas, anyone with any decent mobile experience has virtual very little competition in San Diego. If you’re in this category, why deal with all the paperwork of a gig economy if you are a mobile guy with a 4 year degree and some experience and a company offers you close to $200k+ comp packages with medical, dental, etc etc etc and can’t push you to work more than 40-50hours these days, why not?. I mean, it’s tough for people like me that needs to poach good people from other companies, or for me to support a “remote friendly” work environment where I’m even evaluating whether we need the expense of maintaining a physical office considering mant people work remotely much of the time… but if you have this skill set I’d say milk it while you can. For as long as you can. Since it’s a pretty fine arrangement right now. What they said about restricting work visas was true I was completely wrong. it actually does improve the job market and financial situation for US and permanent residence. I take what I said back before about them. and when people here have jobs and are paid well, people spend … Definitely been an eye opener for me. I will never hire a H1-B again without having at least a comparable position available for an American worker….another life experience I wouldn’t have realized if I didn’t “work”