[quote=svelte][quote=The-Shoveler]Just a general comment not aimed at anyone,

Blaming your failures as an adult on your parents is really lame IMO.[/quote]

Agreed, and i hope you dont think that is what i said.

But the experiences one goes thru in life certainly help form the lens through which one sees the world in general and ones place in that world. Look at the first child second child syndrome.

My wife had a pretty darn rough childhood and she turned out wonderfully. The lens through which she sees the world is different than mine, and some or alot of that is due to the turbulence she went through. Not saying it is good or bad, it just is.

The nature vs nurture thing will never be sorted out completely, too many variables. But both contribute to who you are.[/quote]

it seems to me that the failure of the Trumps to get family therapy in Don’s formative years has changed the course of American history. it seems almost transparently obvious that don didn’t spring fully formed as the being he is, but is still working out some childhood/early adolescent issues.