[quote=scaredyclassic]isnt acting civilized just what people do to get what they need or want? we call ourselves civilized, but we play by the rules of the day, just like every other poor slob for 1000s of years. our nature is no different or better. society may be more or less efficient, or violent, but we, we are the same, playing the game to live and breed.

i can imagine a distant relative of mine from a.d. 700, living in some shitty town g-d knows where, just trying to make it in society, same as me.

im no better or worse than he is, in my nature.

so, if the rules allowed a particlar man many sex partners, i would say his nature would likely be in accord with that. now, in ad 700, and forever into the past and future[/quote]

To act civilized and to exist as a civilization requires certain things; one of which is social mores. The act of having numerous sex partners throughout the day goes against current mores. America is more civilized than ancient cultures because we are better than the past. These laws and social mores allow us to create new technology, eat and sleep comfortably, not have to worry about our personal safety, which allows us to have the longest life expectancies in the Earth’s glorious history.