[quote=bearishgurl]I did “stick with the facts.” I understand the 22-year old “Master Plan” of that area. I looked the whole thing over when you first posted it. A local government’s “Master plan” or “General Plan” doesn’t in any way, shape or form mean that any land they have “earmarked” for future residential development has actually already been subdivided for that use … or even that there are any pending applications for subdivision at the time the Master Plan was created. What I stated on this thread was that there were “no residential parcels within 300 feet” of this project who had the right to formally object to it. Sure, City can hold multiple “public community meetings” or “town hall” meetings to explain to Mira Mesans (in this case) what is going to go down on this land which was long used for heavy industry and even possibly strip mining. They can put on a dog and pony show for you and get community “input” to pretend like they care what you all think (for public relations purposes). But since there were no real affected homeowners in accordance with municipal code and state law, they can (and will) essentially grant any subdivision permits they wish in the back room and appear like they are “satisfying” Mira Mesans desires by widening affected streets and permitting a parking garage.[/quote]What’s the point of having a Master/General/Community plan and updating it periodically base on current community input if some newcommer can poopoo on the plan. If you’re a long term resident and weren’t involved when the plan was created or updated, then you’re SOL.

[quote=bearishgurl]AN, you have to ask yourself how MM went from less than a 20K pop in 1980 (vast majority SFR dwellers) to the mini-megalopolis it is today, where it takes now over 30 minutes to travel the 5-6 miles? between I-15 and I-805 on MM Blvd. Were all your “old timers” asleep at the switch when City decided to cram another 50K people on that same ~10K AC (size of MM) since then? And they’re not done with you guys just yet. They’re apparently now going to cram another ~10K people in your neck of the woods directly atop likely highly-toxic soil … assuming there IS still any soil left in the first 8 feet, lol. (Ask Denverites and Boulder [CO] residents how that turned out for them.) Oh, and this project is going to be built adjacent to multiple low-rise chain hotels which bring another 400 to 1000 (temporary) “residents'” vehicles to your streets on any given day. Sounds to me like a recipe for permanent gridlock :=0 [/quote]Over 30 minutes? Really? When’s the last time you’ve made the trek? You really don’t know what it’s like to live there. The daily traffic doesn’t affect me or others who live here as much as it affects people who don’t live here, who have to get in/out of MM along with everyone else who don’t live here. All I have to say is, you’re factually incorrect. No, the old timer aren’t asleep. MM is developed according to the plan. So, nothing is shocking there. It’s just shocking to those like yourself who don’t know the history of this area. I’m so glad the “old timers” here aren’t like you. MM is 10X better today than it was in the 70s. I would be buying here if MM stayed how it was from the 70s.

[quote=bearishgurl]And where is that proposed MM trolley-line map you promised me? The maps you posted here only included the UTC area.[/quote]I already gave you the info. It’s part of the Stone Creek development. It’s being extended from UTC to Stone Creek. BTW, it would only happen if people like you don’t poopoo the plan and force the reduction of density. If the density get reduced, then the trolley plan is in jeopardy as well.