[quote=FlyerInHi]A good college degree, in a competitive major, is objective measure that someone has work ethics and had done the hard work. It cannot be taken away.[/quote]

What makes you think anyone has said anything different?

I have a friend that teaches STEM at a well known university. do you know what their big complaint is? The kids don’t even recognize why she has a problem with plagiarism, copying, etc.

Regarding the tech diversity report. Personally, I hope we can stop counting noses soon. I’ve worked in tech my whole career. I’ve hired many. The orgs I’ve been in, the people I’ve hired, closely resemble those charts.

Why? Simple. That’s who applied for the job. 80% male, yep, more like 90%. Again they applied for the job. If I kept a 1/3rd of my spots open for females, I’d have had them open for ten years while I bribe 7th grade girls to go into STEM and work their way through to college graduation.

Those charts are that way because that’s who applies. That’s who took the degrees in the fields needed. That’s who wants to do that work.

Here’s google’s tech chart. “There isn’t much diversity in ethnicity across these tech teams either. At Google, 60% of tech employees are white.”

If we want to count noses, that’s an interesting title given the country is 63% non-hispanic white and STEM graduates look like this:

Those charts are that way because that’s who applies. That’s who took the courses in the fields needed. That’s who wants to do that work.

Top college admission is like hiring. My question is are we valuing work ethic or are we valuing grinding?

Will your kid have a better chances if they make it into Berkeley STEM program compared to CS Fresno? Yea, I suspect so, I also suspect you’re kid we be just fine if they get into CS Fresno (which looks like a 3.2 gpa and around 500 on each SAT component).

And who knows, maybe your kid will decide to be a next generation sustainable farmer that knows how to feed the world in a climate changed world.