[quote=The-Shoveler]I need to find the link again, but the lennar and DR horton did a survey and they found their millenial buyers really wanted to live a suburban lifestyle (maybe close to the city true), but they did not want to live in condos etc… or in a crowded urban centers.

Anyway I need to find that link again. but the issue is even if they did there is no way (at least in Socal) that they could all fit in the existing urban centers so there would need to be new urban centers created.

Yes I agree though next to UCR will be a new urban center so will eastvale LOL.[/quote]The young families in my area (headed by millenial parents) who are renting SFRs (on std or bigger lots) mostly can’t see fit to take care of their yard and gardens. Some of their LL’s provide gardeners and some don’t. I can’t believe how lazy this group is, especially the SAHP. I worked FT, took care of the house AND garden (both on the large side) and even pool and ALSO took care of my kids on the eves/weekend and did ALL the grocery shopping!

I feel that a lot of millenial parents can’t even walk and chew gum at the same time. Clearly, the care of their kid(s) just overwhelms them to the point that they miss their trash pickup day … among other, obvious issues with a SFR that should have been taken care of.

Perhaps most of these young parents (20’s) should be raising their kids in apts or condos where the landscaping is taken care of and enclosed dumpsters are provided. This group doesn’t park in their garages anyway (they’re used to store junk). They’re CLUEless on how to properly run a household in a SFR.