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My response to Brian should make clear my position on this. In the vast majority of cases that we’ve seen and experienced, the segregation is being done to prevent the “feminization” of boys; it’s not done to prevent the girls from becoming too masculine.
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Here’s where you’re wrong:
Not wanting boys to be like girls is not the same as hating females. It’s not misogyny. Do you want boys to be like girls? Do you want girls to be like boys?
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[quote=zk]I pointed out your erroneous assertion that not wanting boys to be like girls is the same as hating girls. (You had earlier said that the segregation of boys and girls was misogynistic). This, again, does not rely on the assumption that you wear misogyny-tinted glasses.[/quote]

This isn’t about “hating girls,” this is about hating the feminization of boys.
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You said the segregation of the genders was due to misogyny. Misogyny=”hating girls.”

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I’ve bolded my quote so you can read it again. There is a reason for wanting to keep a boy from being “feminized.” What might that be?
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The reason for not wanting a boy to be feminized is because it goes against his nature and takes away part of who he is.

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Does it exist on the same level as not wanting a girl to be “masculinized”? Why, or why not?
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I don’t know what “on the same level” means. But I wouldn’t want girls to be masculinized any more than I’d want boys to be feminized

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Yes, not wanting boys to be “like girls” can indeed be sexist, and possibly misogynistic. If you are opposed to the “feminization” of boys, then you obviously have very little understanding of the fact that genders are not nearly as binary as you seem to think they are.
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Or, if you’re for the gender neutralization of boys, then you obviously have very little understanding of the fact that genders are not nearly as similar as you seem to think they are.

You never answered my question about catcalls. Why is that?

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There are feminine boys who are way over on the “feminine” side of the spectrum, and there are masculine girls who are far on the “masculine” side of the spectrum. It is not binary, no matter how desperately you try to wish it into existence. Trying to force your erroneous beliefs about gender types on children is extremely unhealthy for the child. They need to determine for themselves how they want to be, without the external influences that seek to push them into a “socially acceptable” box.

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I think there’s a spectrum, and that both genders are sprinkled throughout the spectrum. But I think it’s a very wide spectrum, with all but the part near the middle populated mostly by one gender or the other.

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As you can see, I don’t think it’s completely binary.

I agree that trying to force erroneous beliefs about gender types is extremely unhealthy for a child. And I agree that they need to determine for themselves how they want to be, without the external influences that seek to push them into a “socially acceptable” box. Trying to force them all into the middle would be as damaging as trying to force them to fit elsewhere.

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And I said that the segregation was being done to prevent the “feminization” of boys. Based on your response, it would appear that you don’t like the “feminization” of boys (or the “masculinization” of girls, too?) and use this as a justification for gender segregation. So, it would appear as though you’re admitting that I was right.[/quote]
I don’t like feminization of boys or masculinization of girls. I think they need to determine for themselves how they want to be, without the external influences that seek to push them into a “socially acceptable” box.

Here’s where your logic fails: You posit that “zk doesn’t like feminization of boys, therefore zk uses that as justification for gender segregation.”

I don’t use this as justification for gender segregation. As I’ve stated before, I don’t encourage gender segregation by parents/teachers. If children want to segregate themselves, which they sometimes do, then they should be allowed to do that on the occasions that they want to.