Again, every single one of your “points” hinges on your belief that I “wear misogyny-tinted glasses.” If you can show me a point that you’ve made that addresses the issue without relying on this claim, please point it out.
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From page 4 (where our debate started):
[quote=zk][quote=CA renter][quote=Blogstar]You think boys and girls don’t mix in 2015 and you call it “misogynistic”? Wow![/quote]
What if we changed it to say this:
“You think whites and blacks don’t mix in 2015 and you call it “racist”? Wow!
What, exactly, are you surprised by? That it appears as though boys and girls are more segregated today than when we were growing up; or that, if true, it would be considered misogynistic?[/quote]
That doesn’t even make sense. That analogy would only hold water if someone had said that lack of interracial interaction was due to blacks hating whites and someone else said:
“You think whites and blacks don’t mix in 2015 and you say it’s because blacks hate whites? Wow!”
See, because that would be taking issue with laying the blame for the lack of interaction on one side. You blamed misogyny, and Russ took issue with it. The speaker above blamed blacks’ hate for whites. To take issue with that seems like a valid, proper, basically required response.[/quote]
I pointed out the failure of logic in your analogy. The identification of this failure had nothing to do with your misogyny-tinted glasses.
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And this is where your logic breaks down.
If white kids and black kids were segregated because white parents thought that white kids should hang out with other white kids because “that’s who they want to hang out with” or because they perceive that they have more in common with one another, most people would consider that to be racist. It might be “normal” or “natural” behavior, but most people would admit that excluding one group of people because of the way they were born is wrong, especially if the ones doing the majority of the excluding are the people who have historically held power over the other group.[/quote]
Actually, this is where your logic breaks down.
You use “what most people would consider” as a substitute for “what’s reasonable and fair and right.” What “most people would consider,” when it comes to race relations in this country, is not necessarily reasonable or fair or right.
By your reasoning, it’s especially racist if the white kids exclude the black kids, but not racist if the black kids exclude the white kids. Does that make sense to you?
If a person wants to segregate black people and white people because they think that white people and black people have different brains and different interests and different temperaments, then that may or may not be racist. (They would be incorrect, but not necessarily racist). If a person wants to segregate whites and blacks because they think that either blacks are better than whites or whites are better than blacks, then that would definitely be racist.
