[quote=ocrenter]I for one am glad the elephant in the room is finally being discussed.

I’ve been posts on this thread trying to figure out this guy and watching the typical cry about need for better mental health assessment and access and awareness in the media. But nobody seem to want to talk about how this guy managed to get 3 guns and 40000 rounds of ammo.

Here’s the bottom line. People LIE when they go in to see their doctors. They lie about how much they drink, they lie about how much they exercise, they lie about how much cookies they eat. So how many would be mass murderers will tell their doctor they have a bunch of guns and ammo in the car?
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If what you say is true and that people lie, what recently discussed gun control laws would have prevented this situation from happening? What background check enhancements, what assault riffle ban, etc. prevents this situation from happening again? Are we doing something that actually will make a difference and prevent these scenarios from happening or are we doing something just to make ourselves feel better that we did something.

The democratic majority in this country isn’t going to change the second amendment right now. We can eliminate gun related mass murders but it requires a police state that most of us aren’t willing to trade in exchange for never having another gun death.