[quote=FlyerInHi]CAr is kinda talking round and round. If it were not for the supposed high returns, contributions would have been much more for the same benefits. Now that the returns turned out to be lower, you either put in more or get less.

It only makes sense to me that people who contributed less should get less. We can change the contracts and the laws to make it happen.[/quote]

Flyer,

It was the **employers** (a/k/a: taxpayers) who were paying nothing toward pension contributions during the pension holidays.

And as far as your “we can change the laws” assertion. You don’t seem to understand state constitutional law and the protection of vested benefits.