[quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG]…Our children will have it tougher as more labor than before will be available. If the labor force does not decrease to the point where the demand for it is high then supply side will always drive labor down. It’s just that simple…[/quote]
I don’t think its as simple as you make it out to be here, CDMA.
First of all, the availability (or unavailability) of any kind of labor depends entirely upon locale. In many locales in the US, there is never enough available would-be employees at any given time.
In addition, boomers retiring en masse will free up many “career-track” positions, but of course, some of these positions may very well then be eliminated. But the sheer NUMBERS of boomers leaving the workforce should create openings for new workers (millenials) and others who have been chronically unemployed in recent years through no fault of their own.
I don’t foresee all the doom and gloom that you do but realize that in places like San Diego, CA (15 mi from the int’l border) a large portion of its population who wants to work will be without work, due to a never-ending supply of low-wage workers and also the presence of thousands of “American” workers who have chosen to live on the other side of the border so they can work in SD County for less wages (be more “competitive”) and still have enough money to live comfortably on.
Due to geography, this phenomenon has been ever present and will never leave this area but there IS an alternative. It’s called “relocation.”[/quote]
Do you even stop to read things charitably before you start to rebuff?
WTF are you even talking about?!?
What did I say… Let’s revisit…
“…Our children will have it tougher as more labor than before will be available. If the labor force does not decrease to the point where the demand for it is high then supply side will always drive labor down. It’s just that simple…”
Then you go one to talk about locales and the lack of qualified personnel in areas and that those employers are offering better wages to attract talent…
Yes that is exactly the fucking point irrespective of locale!
So in the above situation the labor force did decrease and demand for labor is high and therefore wages increase… It only follows from the above. Everyone on this board understands that (well not everyone apparently) but you feel the need to go on and argue about a non-issue.
As for you locale argument that is an outlier and there are very few examples of that compared to the total amount of jobs worldwide.
Plus you keep going on about “Boomers” as a tangent… I agree about a lot of boomers out there are hard working individuals but a lot of them are just as lazy as the incoming work force.
I am tired of you talking about my generation as lazy and entitled. About 50% of the time you are right. And about 50% of your generations is the same. I can’t believe how many ppl I want to retire because they are consistently a gating personality.
Lastly you go on about techies and Boomers. Since you can’t keep off that tangent… let me address… Again some of them are capable of bringing their skills up to date and some are not but let me tell you something about tech you don’t understand.
I don’t care how smart you are… How old or young you are… Your salary requirements…
IF YOU CAN’T OPERATE IN MY ENVIROMENT FROM DAY ONE YOU ARE GONE. I released two kids/non-hackers from my group today. Production is key and you need to show that immediately.
I can’t afford for you to update your skills on my time or projects. You can do the job from day one or not (within 75% of the total scope of work no one know the complete job day one). Also I need you for 40+ plus hours… Not part time… Tech does not operate like that… So if you are a Boomer and your skills are not up to date you have little opportunity to come back. Same applies to junior engineers…
Work some years in tech as a tech then I may consider your argument even if it is as off-based as it is.
The Boomers retiring will not satisfy not open up that many positions that it’s even worth discussing…
Sorry this argument drifted from point to point but it was just following your comments which are more of rant than an argument.
