I just Google mapped Phoenix to Alpine AZ and it said 4 hrs and 47 min. You can usually make it 30 min faster than Google so let’s say 4 hr 15 min. The White Mnts of AZ on the New Mexico border are gorgeous and not many Cali people know abut them. Total pine forest cool high alpine setting in summers & snowy in winters. I knew a lady in Phoenix that had a house up there she escaped to in summers. But yes that is a long haul & she could telecommute:)