[quote=zk][quote=desmond]
This is what I saw coming, the gun control crowd starts bashing the gun owners. Instead of real solutions they just show their hatred of the people that own guns. Finally after so much “LMC” inspired hogwash the gun owners just get sick of it and say no. Gun sales skyrocket the pushback will be harder and the gun control crowd will continue to name call. I was thinking some controls, even though they would not work, would be okay, no large clips, but not anymore, forget it.[/quote]
I just read all of KIBU’s posts on this thread. I didn’t see him call anyone a name. And then we have this:
[quote=Paul0373]Hey KIBU, get out of my face with all of your Gun Control Garbage. You know what? I’ve never felt the need to own a personal firearm until you self-righteous, Constitution hating Communists decided to start going after yet another personal liberty. Listen to Feinstein, Cuomo, Emanuel, Obama… and yourself.. You all make me ill. If I want to own 50 ARs and a million rounds of ammunition, that’s my business bud. If you’re so naive to think that this government is disarming us for our good while they(feinstein) have concealed carry permits and armed guards(all of them), you are a naive fool. Please, crawl in a hole until you have enough votes to amend the Constitution and until then I’d be happy to buy you an NRA membership and take you to the range for some target practice.[/quote]
If Paul’s response is to KIBU, which it certainly appears to be, then Paul’s problem isn’t that he’s fed up with name calling.
There’s been plenty of reasonable discussion on this board for stronger gun control. But that all appears to have been ignored. If all Paul has no response to this except to say is that we’re “self-righteous, Constitution hating Communists” and “naive fool[s],” we “make [him] ill” and that we should “crawl in a hole,” then perhaps the problem isn’t our “LMC inspired hogwash.” Perhaps the problem is the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage/NRA-inspired, foaming-at-the-mouth, reasonless ranting of angry people like Paul.
You (desmond) say that we’ve bashed gun owners and offered no real solutions. That’s only true if you automatically disagree with all the solutions we have to offer. Let me ask you this: What solutions might we offer that you would consider “real”? Or are there none? If, in your opinion, there are none, then your accusation that we’re offering no real solutions doesn’t really fly.
Did you see Paul offering any solutions to the thousands of gun deaths we have in this country every year? No? Then how come you’re accusing the gun-control side of not offering solutions, but not the anti-gun-control side?
I don’t see how you read Paul’s post and come away with the conclusion that the gun-control side is the one not offering solutions.[/quote]
ZK,
I never mention kibu, so I guess you glossed over all the name calling posts by the gun control side, there are many. Now on to the solutions, (btw, I have owned guns since being a kid) I have tried in previous posts, maybe on the other thread, to point out how hard it will be to find a solution for the mass killing episodes. Ban a certain gun another one will be used, try to cut down on the the clip size, smaller clips can be replaced in seconds to continue shooting. It probably will not be banning certain guns or any type of “registering” that will do anything to help (imo). I also fear that if the mental aspect gets more “crackdown” than the people that need help will avoid it. As the post deteriorates into name calling (by both sides) it becomes useless. Unless both sides are willing to work together a cramdown solution by either side will, pardon the pun, backfire.
