Yes you can short them with the vehicles that SK made note of. However you more then likely get killed because those etfs hammer you. Your movement is only from opening to closing. When gaps happen overnight you do not benefit.

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Look at the tnx from 79 to 84. Just think how life would have been if you bought 30 year bonds at that time?

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FLU you spoke of buying bonds. If you meant trading bonds that is an entirely different matter. Talk to Chris, the email I sent you, he is a bond trader.

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Some day, I don’t know when, I will buy bonds and sit on them for income… At this rate, it looks like that day is far far away. It will come though.