If you thought it through, how exactly are you going to sort legal vs illegal kids? And are you going to deny primary education if they refuse to pay? Which brings us back to my original question.
It is you who is judgmental. The elderly who become permanent residents do not have any requirement to learn English. A little bit of research and comprehension on your part would have helped. And “Hell, they are here and successfully applied for permanent residence so they qualify to pay for it.” means jack. It only shows that you will not be bothered to address how you separate them from the rest. The fact that they are living in multi-million dollar homes means nothing to what is being discussed here. Not sure why you would even bring it up unless you are anti-rich or simply jealous.
And by the way, the “I know somebody” personal anecdotes on online fora are a sure indication of lying and refusal to accept facts. Couple that with you bringing in “ideology” and accusing me of “greater good” when I only pointed out the consequences of what you were advocating shows that it is not fiscal issues anything you are concerned about.
You just want a forum to rant on. Keep on.
[quote=flu] No one is saying their services shouldn’t be denied. What I’m saying is they should pay for it..It shouldn’t be subsidized. An yes, I did think through my response. Dollarswise… You offer something for “free” the system is an open door..More people take advantage of it…Who wouldn’t….Those asian elderly can afford to pay for it. Hell, they are here and successfully applied for permanent residence so they qualify to pay for it. Most of them live in side their kid’s multi-million dollar homes. Do you really think they cannot afford to pay for this?
Did you think about that one…Schools are letting our students go, are class sizes are going up, despite prop 30, we’re still going to have a budget crisis in our schools…And you think it’s ok, at the expense of kids, to offer “free” these free classes (especially when people can afford to pay for it)…Really??? wow…. Talk about thinking before speaking/writing…
Here’s something else you probably don’t know…
In the UC schools in the past, in just takes 4 students interests for a class to be offered. Some of the course offerings include such things like Ancient Asian Soap Opera History that one of my friend’s mom taught more/or less part time (and enjoyed full health benefits and subsequent residual payments) after doing it for 3-4 years…These things are also a cost.. Maybe 1 class here at one university isn’t a big deal.. But multiple that with the total number of UC schools that probably does the same thing, the CalState schools that do the same thing, and all the local community colleges that do the same thing…Tell me that these courses will lead to are absolutely necessary…
Before you get all judgmental. Why don’t you do some digging on what really happens, instead of being wrapped up in ideology of “greater good”.
If someone on the street is handing out free iPhones,toys..Of course people are gonna take it…Even people who don’t like apple products….
I guarantee you. If these “free” courses were just offered with a $30 fee. You suddenly would have a huge drop off in enrollment. Not that people can’t “afford” the classes. But the prevailing attitude is “heck, it’s free. I don’t really want to go..But it’s free”
Again, not saying things need to be completely eliminated. But come on, there’s a crapload of pork…And no one is addressing the pork…
Completely dumbfounded by the astonishing sense of entitlement that people have these days….So much for the “fake” fiscal responsibility as claimed by some folks here on piggs…[/quote]
