[quote=flu][quote=bearishgurl]flu, I believe educating our own residents is more important than choosing to educate foreign or out-of-state residents instead (taking our OWN residents’ slots).
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I’m not going to copy the entire post, because I don’t think you answered my question.
I’ll ask again
1. California is broke.
2. California apparently has huge entitlement programs that it cannot afford to pay (pensions, assistance for the poor, benefits for folks that do not have legal authorization to be here,unemployment insurance, etc,etc,etc,etc)
2. California’s budget that once subsidized schools is getting cut.
3. School costs are going up…..
4. CA residence who already has lower tuition than anyone out of state already complained that their tuitions are going up.
5. CA government wants to raise taxes…but most people are going to object
6. CA government can try to cut entitlement programs, but pension holders/entitlement beneficiaries complain.
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WHERE ELSE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE MONEY FROM TO PAY FOR THIS, BESIDES FOREIGNERS WHO HAVE MONEY TO PAY FOR FULL TUITION????
You now a lot of people like say how “things should be”, “how fair/unfair” something is…Irrelevant Let’s do a reality check….ok??? Everything boils down to MONEY and WHO’S PAYING FOR THE BILL..
I know it’s a concept that many Americans have a problem grasping…Particularly since a lot of Americans are use to spending money they borrow and don’t have…But eventually, at sometime, someone has to pay the bills. For CA, BILL DUE…
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BG, if you want CA schools to have less students foreign students with stellar credentials and whos parents has a boatload of money to pay full tuition in CA, then please choose one or more of the following, so that SOMEONE pays for the bills other then the foreign students who’s full tuition are SUBSIDIZING the shortfall for in-state-tuition students.
1. If you have a CA public pension, please organize to shrink your and your peer’s pension..Because CA cannot afford it anymore, and as a result, CA will cut the school budgets.
2. Please be willing to pay more property taxes to fund schools by campaigning to have have Prop13 repealed for everyone, INCLUDING primary residence…None of this selective bullshit about only hitting investment property, because the percentage of investment property versus owner occupied is still small in comparison
3. Please campaign to have the state sales tax raised to 10%.
4. Please campaign to cut benefits to non-legal residence in the state of CA
5. Please campaign to cut unemployment benefits in the state of CA
6. Please campaign to cut workers comp, state disability insurance.
7. Please campaign to have in-state tuitions raised by another 25-30%.
More than likely more than 1 of the above things need to be done at the same time…
Otherwise, UC/CSU/community colleges will continue to get their budgets slashed, and the only way to make up for it is to get foreign students who can afford to pay full tuition to subsidize the shortfall.
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Like I said, I don’t think anyone are willing to make sacrifices #1-7…Folks want to eat the cake and have it too…So the default solution is to have foreign students pay the bills for every in-state tuition person…
Like I said, everyone is in it for themselves.[/quote]
Okay, not sure if you’re attempting to list these things in order from highest cost to lowest, but you’d be off (way off) if that’s what you’re trying to imply.
Firstly, penions comprise only 3-5% of the state’s budget, so even if you eliminated them altogether, it wouldn’t solve our budget problems. UC pensions have been self-funding almost since their inception.
The Prop 13 protection for properties *other than* primary residences is the majority expense of Prop 13. I believe the number of SFH’s in SD that are held as rental properties or second homes is around 57% of total SFHs. Owners of commercial properties that have been transferred through LLCs are the biggest beneficiaries of Prop 13, as they don’t even have to pay property taxes on their purchase price!
The reason Prop 13 passed was because people were told that it was designed to “keep granny from being taxed out of her home.” These are a small minority of those who benefit from Prop 13. This budget item is hardly minor; I’d say it’s one of the biggest (the biggest?) reasons for our financial problems at the state level. It certainly has more of an effect on our state budget than pensions (or worker’s comp, etc.) do.
You also need to understand that colleges and universities have been getting less and less public funding over the years. It is this reason — not pensions and pay — that is causing the tuition spikes. In addition to that, there is a major misallocation of resources at many college/university campuses. Read the link I posted, above.
[edit: the 57% number is coming from memory. I will try to confirm (not easily found), if you’d like, but won’t waste my time if nobody cares to read it…which is what happens most of the time when facts are presented.]
