Jack has it over Joe in every component you mention in a big way. Like I said, maybe its just in CA where cronyism isnt rampant but I find that hard to beleive. Perhaps you only see what you want to see. Its impossible to say the 3 you know didnt get their jobs because of their dad’s positions as you cant see the back room dealings. Additionally, having a dad in the department helps one to know exactly what “doing all the right things” means….wink wink