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This stuff has been around long before Obama. Bush/Cheney took it to a new level. And there IS a difference between initiating it and choosing not to stop it when it’s already in place.

You seem to be absolutely fixated on this issue, Allan. But what you consistently fail to provide is an alternative course of action.

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Pri: Relative to torture: STOP DOING IT. Simple as that. I know from firsthand experience that torture does NOT work.

Repeal Patriots I and II, along with FISA and the NSA Carnivore and Echelon programs. You referenced an earlier Obama Executive Order directing the closure of Gitmo (and it would now appear that YOU DID know that EO was BS), why not have the Prez issue some Executive Orders undoing some of these programs (and, given the nature of these programs, an EO is exactly what is needed).

Stop extraordinary renditions. Again, simple as that.