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August 6, 2006 at 6:38 AM #7108August 6, 2006 at 7:25 AM #30910
rankandfile
ParticipantI second that, Powayseller. The only thing I might add is that the $600K homes may need to come down even further than $300K…unless wages are increased to an adequate level.
Your point is so banal, yet so sagacious. Middle class San Diegans simply cannot afford to live here without the need for some risky, exotic loan vehicle. The sad part is that the media (the UT in particular) had given warnings in years’ past about San Diego’s dwindling middle class. It’s funny how we choose to have selective memory with certain things.
August 6, 2006 at 8:03 AM #30912bubble_contagion
ParticipantI wouldn’t be surprised if the decline in home prices leads to people leaving San Diego. Home prices, taxes, gas prices and other services are more expensive in SD but could be justified by the appreciation of real estate. It was like “getting paid to live here”. If you remove that incentive, many middle class people may not find the “great weather” enough of a reason to stay.
August 6, 2006 at 9:23 AM #30921lindismith
ParticipantAdd to this a tiny downward slide in the local economy, and that is going to send people packing also. A few companies closing their doors with no replacement jobs in the market means more people will leave.
For example, those graphic design and ad agencies that have catered to the building market in the last few years – firms like these will need to change out their clientele to stay afloat. I wonder how many of them are already affected? How many of them are seeing their business slow? Maybe some have had lay-offs already?
The builders themselves, the contractors, the remodelers, the landscapers, the interior designers, the furniture retailers…. we’ve mentioned them all before.
August 6, 2006 at 9:38 AM #30922PerryChase
Participantbubble_contagion, that’s exactly what happened in the 1990s. I remember quite well. Many owners and sellers will get disillusioned with equity loss and leave the state. Many whites who have family in other states will leave for a better “quality of life.” Immigrants have no choice but to stay and tough it out.
I expect the upcoming crash to make California a more Hispanic state than ever (a good thing in my view).August 6, 2006 at 11:46 AM #30932JES
ParticipantGreat analysis! Think about this very imperfect analysis:
If we assume 24,000 homes for sale, a population of 1,800,000 who are over 25 years old in the county, and we assume that only 9% can afford a median priced home. Then:
=Approx 162,000 residents can afford the median priced home, but some are married. So lets say 40% are married.
=Approx 130,000 unmarried individuals or couples in the entire county can afford that home.=Approx 31 percent of individuals/couples who CAN afford to buy a home would HAVE to buy a home to clear the current inventory! And many of those homes are well above the mediun price!
Very imperfect analysis, I know!
August 6, 2006 at 1:43 PM #30949jacksandgo
ParticipantGreat post, PS, as always! Well, I’m thinking again and when I think, it’s always dangerous…just ask my significant other. 🙂
I’m thinking about what all this means to the population growth we’ve had over the past 10 years here in SD. If housing prices fall back to the historical moving average increase levels, will our population do the same?
Will SD’s population, and it’s growth, fall to a historic moving average in growth that somewhat mirrors housing’s price fall?
August 6, 2006 at 2:08 PM #30952powayseller
ParticipantPopulation migration into San Diego was positive, about 50K/year for many years, and has now reversed. With the upcoming job losses in construction, real estate, and lending, and retail/restaurant, and companies like Nokia downsizing, this trend of homebuyer-aged people leaving will continue.
I’m sure that eventually growth will pick back up again, after housing prices fall to a level that is a reasonable multiple of wages.
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