[quote=davelj]Many men (and women – but I’m going to focus on men here) want to have their cake and eat it too. They enter into marriage because they want kids and the stability of a wife-partner. But they have no intention of being faithful. [/quote]

I think the point that you’re making is that people, men and women both, routinely mislead others for their own gain. There really isn’t any surprise there . . . Famous examples are Bernie Madoff, Martha Stewart and Barry Bonds, but it can be seen everywhere. And I wouldn’t take your friends’ experiences as being average. I assume that you are single, and it is pretty well accepted that married guys who want to hang out at the bar with their single friends are more interested in having an affair. In fact – they might be misleading YOU – saying they want to hang out at the bar with you when what they really want is cover for hanging out at the bar to meet women :). Just kidding, but it kind of makes you think . . .