In some ways this thread is hopeless. Any sensible person knows the state of california gov’t – largely or completely controlled by public employee unions – is completely out of control and the excesses we read about time and again with public employees should be criminal. It’s all sickening.

Lifeguards, city managers, teachers, cops, firefighters…the list never ends.

Reality: Unless the state defaults this problem (extreme excesses in salaries, pensions, etc…) will NEVER get fixed. What happened in Wisconsin desperately needs to happen in California. Problem is, the union machinery is so powerful it won’t.

What will happen is gov’t employees (the takers) will continue robbing the makers (private sector). Meanwhile, most makers if they are lucky will be working till the day they die.

Gov’t workers on the other hand will be retiring at 50 with 90% of their salary (and we all know how that game is played as well).