[quote=briansd1]
I think that Obama is a philosopher president who’s too timid and pragmatic.

He’s much less of the establishment than the right-wingers who might get elected on Tuesday.

I believe that there are some deep-seated psychological and sociological reasons for the “hatred” of Obama. I’ll wait for a few decades for the historian to write the books and explain it.[/quote]

Brian: Completely specious argument and completely divorced from the actual facts.

“Much less of the establishment than the right-wingers”? How can you say that with a straight face? He has either continued, or expanded, the policies of the Bush Administration. He passed the single largest Defense spending package in our nation’s history. Gitmo is still open. Patriot Acts I and II are still in effect. Predator/Reaper strikes in AfPak are significantly expanded. Yes, he is winding down the US presence in Iraq, but juxtaposed against his “stay the course” attitude when it comes to Bush-era policies, well, I think you’re gonna have to come clean and admit he isn’t “less of the establishment” at all.

Philosopher president? Is that like a knight-errant? I’ll grant that this is a cerebral man, but a philosopher? Based on what? His extensive writings? His well-explained and thoughtful policy stances? He is a cipher, hence his “tabula rasa” approach during the campaign. He is a carefully crafted construct. He is a Brand. And he’s been exposed for his weaknesses, just as Dubya was exposed for being in far over his head as well. He was dry drunk frat boy who should have never been at the helm, but the Big Money chose him as the mouthpiece. If you think Obama’s different, you’re drinking the same Kool-aid, just a different flavor.